AI & Sustainability: follow the money! with Boris Gamazaychikov and Sasha Luccioni | #79
May 19, 2026
What if the biggest barrier to sustainable AI isn't carbon — it's the economics? ... again!
On today's episode of Green IO, Gaël is joined by Boris Gamazaychikov and Sasha Luccioni, two leading voices at the intersection of AI, energy, and sustainability, who recently left their roles at major tech companies to tackle these questions head-on. Together they unpack the financial architecture driving the AI infrastructure boom — and why understanding the money is the key to understanding everything else.
From the jaw-dropping revenue margins of hyperscale data centres to the hidden lifecycle of GPU hardware, Boris and Sasha make a compelling case that the AI industry is entering a decisive new phase — one where enterprises are finally gaining the leverage to demand transparency, efficiency, and genuine accountability from the companies selling them AI.
What if the biggest barrier to sustainable AI isn't carbon — it's the economics? ... again!
On today's episode of Green IO, Gaël is joined by Boris Gamazaychikov and Sasha Luccioni, two leading voices at the intersection of AI, energy, and sustainability, who recently left their roles at major tech companies to tackle these questions head-on. Together they unpack the financial architecture driving the AI infrastructure boom — and why understanding the money is the key to understanding everything else.
From the jaw-dropping revenue margins of hyperscale data centres to the hidden lifecycle of GPU hardware, Boris and Sasha make a compelling case that the AI industry is entering a decisive new phase — one where enterprises are finally gaining the leverage to demand transparency, efficiency, and genuine accountability from the companies selling them AI.
During this conversation, Gaël and Boris and Sasha also talk about:
- The compounding energy access crisis: from Irish grid operators cutting off 30 data centre projects, to the fragility of behind-the-meter gas turbine deployments
- Why the shift from speculative venture capital to genuine enterprise revenue may be the most important structural change in AI sustainability
- Why a gigawatt-scale data centre in Texas can earn between $4.5 million and $50 million for every $80,000 spent on energy
- The true lifespan of machine learning GPUs (far below the official figures)
- The concentration of power across the entire AI stack
And much, much more.
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Connect with Boris:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgamazay/
Website: https://sustainableaigroup.com/
Connect with Sasha:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sashaluccioniphd/
Website: https://sustainableaigroup.com/
Connect with Gaël and Green IO:
Green IO Website: https://greenio.tech
Green IO Slack: https://greenio-podcast.slack.com
Green IO YouTube: / @greenio877
Gaël's website: https://www.gaelduez.com
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On today's episode of Green IO, Gaël is joined by Boris Gamazaychikov and Sasha Luccioni, two leading voices at the intersection of AI, energy, and sustainability, who recently left their roles at major tech companies to tackle these questions head-on. Together they unpack the financial architecture driving the AI infrastructure boom — and why understanding the money is the key to understanding everything else.
From the jaw-dropping revenue margins of hyperscale data centres to the hidden lifecycle of GPU hardware, Boris and Sasha make a compelling case that the AI industry is entering a decisive new phase — one where enterprises are finally gaining the leverage to demand transparency, efficiency, and genuine accountability from the companies selling them AI.
During this conversation, Gaël and Boris and Sasha also talk about:
- The compounding energy access crisis: from Irish grid operators cutting off 30 data centre projects, to the fragility of behind-the-meter gas turbine deployments
- Why the shift from speculative venture capital to genuine enterprise revenue may be the most important structural change in AI sustainability
- Why a gigawatt-scale data centre in Texas can earn between $4.5 million and $50 million for every $80,000 spent on energy
- The true lifespan of machine learning GPUs (far below the official figures)
- The concentration of power across the entire AI stack
And much, much more.
❤️ Like and subscribe so that you never miss an episode.
🎁 Want to accurately measure your team’s environmental impact? Try ResilioDB for 90 days. Use code GREENIO26: https://db.resilio.tech/register
📣 Green IO next Conference is in New York on 13-14 May. Every Green IO listener can get a free ticket using the voucher GREENIOVIP. A small gift for your huge support. 🎁 Redeem here: https://portal.joinfost.io/event/futu...
📧 Each month our readers get carefully curated news on digital sustainability, packed with exclusive Green IO content. Subscribe to the Green IO newsletter: https://newsletter.greenio.tech
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Connect with Boris:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bgamazay/
Website: https://sustainableaigroup.com/
Connect with Sasha:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sashaluccioniphd/
Website: https://sustainableaigroup.com/
Connect with Gaël and Green IO:
Green IO Website: https://greenio.tech
Green IO Slack: https://greenio-podcast.slack.com
Green IO YouTube: / @greenio877
Gaël's website: https://www.gaelduez.com
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📧 You can also send us an email at contact@greenio.tech to share your feedback and suggest future guests or topics